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How long has this technology been around?
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So it's been around for about five months and it just got launched and we've been able to treat thousands of patients in that period of time and 75 to 80 percent of them have had dramatic results and you know the other 20 percent have had significant improvement and what's amazing about this is that because it comes from the entire secretome it's able to signal
for up to three to four weeks, whereas stem cells and exosomes typically is three to five days. these peptides that everybody is using now is typically a few minutes to a few hours. That's why people have to re-inject themselves every day or every few days. So this particular stem cell technology has the power to regenerate tissue for a lot longer period of time than anything else that exists.
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Christian Healthy Lifestyle podcast where I help you navigate natural health so you can stay out of the doctor's office, age gracefully, and live a more purpose-driven life.
Well, if you've been listening to the show for any length of time, you know, I haven't had a guest on the show in quite some time. I've been doing a lot of solo episodes. Well, I decided to have a guest on this, this episode. have two guests. In fact, I have Mick Amandi, who is CEO of Region MDs and Dr. Greg Carter, one of his partners in their business and Region MDs. Region stands for regenerative and they work on helping people with all kinds of ailments and injuries with step
cell therapy but it's a new technology and an innovative method of extracting a more broad spectrum of spent stem cells from the placenta of newborn babies and it's been proven to be very very effective and it's a little bit technical this conversation but I think you're gonna enjoy it it's really good this we have a great discussion about how this this procedure this these methods
can be used today and be far more effective than traditional stem cell therapy. So let's jump right into my conversation with Mick Amandi and Dr. Greg Carter. Dr. Greg and Mick, welcome to Christian Healthy Lifestyle.
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Thank you very much. Thank you for having us on your show.
speaker-1 (02:31.544)
Thank you.
speaker-0 (02:31.79)
Absolutely, it's pleasure to have you. I know you guys are doing a really important work and that work centers around stem cells. So if you could, for the people that don't know, what are stem cells and why are they so important?
speaker-2 (02:46.808)
Go ahead, Vic.
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Well, stem cells are the natural component of our bodies that help regenerate our bodies. And by being able to stimulate their growth, we are able to facilitate regeneration of various parts of our body that are being attacked by all the oxidative stress and the inflammation that occurs due to our exposure to toxin.
toxins and the aging process.
speaker-0 (03:20.342)
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And, you know, it's my opinion that we live and die at the cellular level. know, groups of cells make tissue, groups of tissue make organs, groups of organs make systems, and groups of systems make up the body. So it all starts at the cellular level. So it's really important to address the cells, right? I mean, the health and the viability of our cells, correct?
speaker-2 (03:41.666)
That is absolutely correct.
speaker-0 (03:44.354)
Yeah, can you add to that, Dr. Gregg?
speaker-2 (03:46.242)
Yeah, so fundamentally between the ages of zero and 30, Mother Nature has put into our programming language that we're going to heal at a rate that is very comfortable. know, in between those ages, when you're a kid, you could fall off a three-story building and brush yourself off and bounce a couple times and go, I don't know what all these old people who are 30 are complaining about. Meanwhile,
speaker-0 (04:14.126)
Yeah, the ancient 30 year olds.
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You know, I'm 60 and if I stub my toe, I want to be airlifted to the ER. Okay. And the reason for that is because after the age of 30, this entire healing programming language is shut off. So what used to be Niagara Falls is now a drip out of a water faucet. And mother nature's like, well, you know, I'm going to let you go to 130, but you got to some fruits and vegetables and don't get eaten by a saber tooth tiger. Okay. And I'm going to.
leave this programming language, stem cells, inside of you, but I'm not going to make it as easy to access as I did when you were a little kid. And I'm going to give you much less of them. And science figured this out by around the 1950s. And back then, you know, I think people then, like people today, pretty much, you know, when you get older, you kind of feel like, I think this aging thing is a mistake and I don't want to really participate in it.
Okay. And so we've been seeking through science and better living through chemistry, right? How can we slow stop or reverse this aging freight train? And man has been trying to find ways to stimulate our endogenous, our internal stem cells. And in post-World War II, we did this thing called platelet rich plasma where we pulled our blood and spun it down and got that little gold liquid. It's full of growth factors and beneficial cytokines.
And everybody's like, you know, if we just put this in the injured area, you know, based on the components of the plasma, it should fix everything. Well, since 1956 till now, you've heard about platelet-rich plasma like six times on the E network because of the Kardashians, right? Because the juice is not worth the squeeze. In the 1970s, we created embryonic stem cells and those things were amazing. You had a bad knee, you put them in your knee, you had a brand new knee. Well, how come we don't do them today if they're so good?
because they came from aborted fetal tissue and nobody likes that. So between the seventies and the nineties, science sought to find a new way to harvest stem cells that was ethical and effective. And in 1991, we created mesocomal stem cells. was actually a doctor named Dr. Andrew Kaplan. And he said, Hey, we don't have to go to the fetus. We could just go to the placenta. The placenta contains all of the source code to create a human meaning
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between conception and 280 days later, out comes a fully functioning human being, all that source code is inside the placenta. Well, the problem is, is using that 1990s technology, they really couldn't get all of it. They could only get one sixth of the placenta and they utilized kind of a strip mining strategy to do that. They destroyed 90 % of the beneficial
factors and co-factors that make regeneration beneficial to the human being. Then they released it to the public and said, hey, these mesenchymal stem cells, they do exactly what embryonic stem cells did. Except whereas embryonic stem cells had almost 100 % success rate, MSCs had like a 40 % success rate. Well, what's the problem here, Dr. Kaplan? And in 2017, Dr. Kaplan's conscious got the best of him and he published a paper and he said, hey, I was wrong. They don't do what embryonic stem cells do.
What they do is they deliver the payload from the placenta, at least the part that we can strip mine, and those are called paracrine signals or regenerative signaling factors. Now flash forward to the 21st...
speaker-0 (07:55.374)
I just want to back up just little bit because I think we might be losing some people in the weeds here. Okay. So a stem cell is really a super important cell because it can turn into any tissue in the body, right? So our cells will are constantly replacing themselves through the process of RNA duplication But a stem cell can turn into you know, a hair cell a skin cell Teeth and bone you name it it can turn into anything and they're really really active
in newborns, right? So that's why we're looking at the placenta, right? Because you can get young, healthy, active stem cells that are capable of rejuvenation, powerful rejuvenation, because they can have that unique property of turning into any cell in the body, correct?
speaker-2 (08:41.064)
Mostly correct. That was the theory that we thought with embryonic stem cells and mesenchymal stem cells was it turns out mesenchymal stem cells and regenerative signaling cells don't differentiate proliferate and turn into you. What they do is they send the signal to David's tissue and activate David's endogenous stem cells and say, Hey, you guys have been on lunch for about 12 years now.
let's clock back in and get to work and fix this guy's tennis elbow.
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so that's a communication process going on
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It's exactly a communication process. the reason that a lot of the reason that our stem cells are not as active as they might be is not just because there's less. It's not because we're older, right? It's because the signal is being is being drowned out by pollution, environmental pollution, like toxins in our food supply, vaccines that that are overabundant in our body, just all kinds of external
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I call those health blocking factors.
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That's exactly what they are and they create kind of a static like remember TVs with antennas and you put on you know MBC ABC or CBS you get a bunch of static for a little while So instead of a nice clear picture where the stem cell goes, I know exactly what to do I've got a great signal set of instructions. It's staticky and you can't really see the instructions So it does nothing and that's why our healing slows down so much
speaker-0 (10:10.988)
Yeah, yeah, very good. So what type of injuries or ailments is this therapy most beneficial for or most best suited for?
speaker-2 (10:21.038)
Yeah, so regenerative signaling factors represent the latest generation in what is regenerative medicine, what most people would call stem cells. And because we're using not 1990s technology, like I said, I'm 60, the 90s was day before yesterday in my mind. It was 35 years ago, okay? So the technology today doesn't harvest one part of the source code of the placenta poorly, right?
It now can harvest all six parts and can get the entire source code or secretome that creates a human for reproduction that man through technology is repurposed for regeneration in adults, which I'm pretty interested in, right? Because, know, my, tissue doesn't want to heal like it used to. So fundamentally regenerative signaling factors today that are harvested directly from the entire placenta.
are utilizing a completely different technology, an updated technology that allowed it to preserve not only the entire source code, but all the factors, cofactors, enzymes, and everything else that nature placed there for optimal regeneration. And I'll let Mick talk more about that.
speaker-0 (11:35.086)
All right, I'd like to add one thing. I believe in the power of nature, but I also have a faith in God. it's God's design, His divine design here that we're just simply discovering, right? This technology has been around forever since the creation. And it's incredibly complex. we didn't invent this stuff, but we're discovering it.
this divine design that got put in the human body. But go ahead, Mick. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
speaker-1 (12:06.552)
Well, know, the ability for us to now harness the full spectrum of healing from a healthy placenta is now feasible through technology. A lot of people don't know, and I didn't know, and lot of my doctors didn't even realize that there were six areas of the placenta. Everybody's heard of the umbilical cord blood. Everybody's... Some people have heard about the word jelly.
but almost nobody has really known about the amnion, the chorion, the villus placenta and the decidua. And each of these other areas within the placenta are also response for turning an embryo into a human being in those nine months. And so by not being able to access those other areas, you're not getting full healing potential. And that's what
this regenerative signaling factors, the ultra regenerative signaling factors is able to do. And there are various aspects of the placenta. For example, the amnion has a component for anti inflammation. So it's a very powerful anti-inflammatory. So when the amnion is included into the party, if you will, when you're able to utilize regenerative signaling factors with the amnion component,
you're able to switch healing to almost immediately from inflammation. So people that have chronic pain, that are suffering from swelling and pain, in just a matter of 24 to 72 hours, we see significant improvement in just that one area alone.
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Yeah, and I'd like to add, Mick, I'd like to add that chronic inflammation is associated with just about every chronic degenerative disease. Everything. So it sounds like this is very useful for anti-aging, or aging gracefully as I put it, but also for treating ailments, things that are bothering people. Yeah. So again, I asked this earlier, but I'd like to kind of drill in.
if for somebody listening saying, I've been dealing with knee pain for a while, or I've got low back pain, or you name it, autoimmune, you name it, tell me, or tell the audience, the natural nation, what type of things this is best suited for, this technology.
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So what's amazing with this is that number one, because of the way it's processed, it has no living cells in it, has no DNA, no RNA. So it's completely a cellular. And because it's a cellular, it does not fall under the FDA regulations as a biologic. And it's essentially something that's available as a protein powder.
that is able to be reconstituted with sterile water and injected directly into the body as simple as a peptide. So you can actually inject it in your belly for systemic application at home next to your kitchen table. And you can also inject it directly into the joint area with a diabetic syringe.
which is not a long needle, it's a tiny needle. Everybody's injected themselves with it, knows about peptides, they're using that every day. So just around that area, Dr. Gregg can talk about why it's so effective for knees, shoulders, neck, back issues. And you are also able to take it intranasally, just like with a very small syringe that goes in your nose and has a little cone at the end, and it turns it into a mist.
atomized mist in just instantly so that just like an afferent spray you're able to get the stem cell technology directly into your brain tissue and it starts working immediately and Dr. Greg can talk about why you know when you're able to inject it into the local area of an injury of a joint it works very very effectively and how quickly it works. Dr. Greg?
speaker-0 (16:26.944)
Yeah, want to, Dr. Greer, definitely want to get back to that. We'll circle back to that for sure. But I'm really curious right now as to how long have you guys been doing this? Do you do it in a clinic as well as outpatient? What brought you to this place? What discoveries have you made to get to doing what you're doing today? And how many people have been using this technology?
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My background is physical medicine and rehabilitation, but I stopped doing that in 2006 when I joined the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine for purely selfish reasons, David. I actually think this whole aging thing is a transcription error somewhere along the lines. know, people used to live 900 years. How come that didn't happen today? Something has gone awry, okay? And if I could address your inflammation question,
speaker-0 (17:13.816)
Well, good question.
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Chronic inflammation, David, is not a natural state of man. Acute inflammation is, okay? So what happens is the three of us are on a hunt, we're looking for a little mammoth, I'm not paying attention, I trip over a rock, bang my knee, after the two of you make fun of me, know, makes you say, all right, sit under the tree for three days, dumb dumb, and wait for your knee to heal. And during that three days, that 72 hour period called acute inflammation, I'm gonna experience redness, pain, heat, and swelling.
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So this is a critical part of the healing process.
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So this sphere of inflammation around my knee is a negative disincentive for movement. It doesn't want me to move. And the inflammation is creating a de facto biological cast because nobody told the nervous system that we exist in this miracle of the 21st century where there are planes, trains, automobiles, and air conditioning. So it is doing what it is doing with nature's natural healing mechanisms.
And so during that three day period of stillness and rest, that's not all that's happening. That inflammation sphere is sending out a signal to the rest of the body going, hey, anybody in the continent of Gregg that can fix this guy's patella, I want you to a mass at the border of this inflammation. In three days, I'm going to drop the walls and need everybody to flood in and fix this guy's knee so it can help the other two guys hunt for the wooly mammoth. Okay. That is a bioelectrical signal that creates that
Flip, okay? Well that electrical signal is disrupted by electricity that we're surrounded by. Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, fluoride, name your poison. And that's why that three day acute inflammation becomes subacute and then that subacute inflammation becomes chronic. And when it goes chronic, then all of these other problems that most of man never dealt with from the dawn of time until day before yesterday start happening, okay? So we're living with
you know, the double-edged sword of our convenient 21st century lifestyle on the one hand, but on the other hand, it is totally disrupting our natural bioelectrical field and our natural inherent healing processes. Does that answer your chronic inflammation question?
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A great way of putting it, I think it was well said. I understand it much better now. Thank you. So, what does this process look like from the patient's point of view? How would they start this process, and what results can they expect?
speaker-1 (19:49.838)
So, you know, we have the ability now to be able to send the treatment protocol components to the patient's home. So that consists typically of a device that neutralizes all the inflammation, boosts the immune system, facilitates very rapid detoxification, and accelerates the mitochondrial function of new mitochondria and cells.
and that's the use of molecular hydrogen. So we have a device that allows patients to inhale molecular hydrogen instead of drinking it. So in just 15 minutes of breathing in molecular hydrogen, it's equivalent to eating a thousand blueberries. And that antioxidant impact on the body is tremendous for being able to stop the degenerative process due to oxidative stress and inflammation.
And so that's the first stage of our protocol. And the second stage is the use of ultra RSF to basically accelerate the regeneration and healing. And, know, to your point earlier, you asked what kind of conditions are you able to treat? Basically, everything that typically is used in regenerative medicine is used to treat things like joint pain, neck and back pain, neuropathic pain, neurodegenerative diseases, systemic conditions. Obviously, those are
typically only available overseas for people like cardiovascular disease, autoimmune conditions, respiratory conditions, things of that nature. So, you know, it allows us
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Let me interrupt. You used a term back there that I don't understand. Ultra RSF, what is that?
speaker-1 (21:34.704)
I'm sorry. That's the name of the product that we use for the stem cell technology. It's called ultra regenerative signaling factors. That's what RSF stands for.
speaker-0 (21:44.704)
and it's it's basically like a protein powder is that right
speaker-1 (21:47.734)
It's a light. Yes. Dr. Greg, you can explain.
speaker-2 (21:52.352)
It's the secretome of the entire placenta. It's all six sections. So they harvest the secretome of all six sections so that when the person introduces it to their physiology, regardless of what injury is happening, ligament, tendon, cardiovascular, autoimmune, that tissue that is specific for the secretome component will get the secretome component.
So there will be no cross-linking. Each damaged tissue is giving off a, raising up a little satellite dish going, help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope. And then the cloud of paracrine signals are floating by, and then like, let's say this is the cardiac tissue, only the cardiac tissue components are gonna fall out of the C-130 and paratroop down into the cardiac tissue. In other words, knee ligament,
speaker-0 (22:30.444)
and SOS signal.
speaker-2 (22:49.92)
regenerative signaling factors wouldn't go into the cardiac tissue because they are programmed by nature to only go where they're specifically indicated. And I did forget to mention during the acute to chronic inflammation, one of the benefits of the 21st century harvesting of regenerative signaling factors, and I think this might be one of the most important things is the reason that we don't go from acute and from chronic inflammation
to rest and recovery is because a single physiologic molecule called the M1 macrophage is the biological nanorobot that is saying redness, pain, heat, swelling, redness, pain, heat, swelling, redness, pain, heat, swelling. And it is waiting for a signal from the central nervous system to say, I need you to flip into M2, rest and recovery.
regenerative signaling factors because of the advanced mechanism of harvesting the entire secreto with all those factors and cofactors has a manual override for that chronic inflammation and manually within 24 hours shifts this M1 macrophage causing retinas pain, heat and swelling for days, weeks, months, years, decades, wham, and 24 hours into M2. So now this chronic inflammation switch is shut off and now your body's natural healing process
All of sudden, it's like, somebody just opened the gates, quick, run in and do something.
speaker-0 (24:19.31)
Excellent, excellent. So there's all kinds of communication going on at the cellular level in our bodies all the time, right? Right hormones operate in a similar fashion, right? We have you know, for instance insulin is only gonna attach itself to an insulin receptor So it sounds like this is you know, very consistent with what we understand about human physiology We understood this for quite some time, but this sounds like relatively new technology that hasn't been used here before How long is this technology been around?
speaker-1 (24:48.184)
So it's been around for about five months and it just got launched and we've been able to treat thousands of patients in that period of time and 75 to 80 percent of them have had dramatic results and you know the other 20 percent have had significant improvement and what's amazing about this is that because it comes from the entire secretome it's able to signal
for up to three to four weeks, whereas stem cells and exosomes typically is three to five days. these peptides that everybody is using now is typically a few minutes to a few hours. That's why people have to re-inject themselves every day or every few days. So this particular stem cell technology has the power to regenerate tissue for a lot longer period of time than anything else that exists.
speaker-0 (25:46.07)
So is that the answer to the question, why does stem cell therapy seem to work for some people and not others, or is there more to it than that?
speaker-2 (25:55.042)
because it comes from 1.6 of the source code and it's an old outdated obsolete technology. So if you have the 1.6 of the source code even under perfect conditions, but you need the 1.6 from another part of the placenta, you're in the 60 % of people it didn't work for. Does that make sense?
speaker-0 (26:13.55)
Yeah, yeah. So stem cell replacement therapy is very expensive. Sometimes people have to go out of the country to get it, but I understand it is available here domestically now. But this technology sounds like it's just far more thorough than just hoping that you got it right.
speaker-2 (26:32.174)
Right, like all, so you gotta remember that we decoded the human genome in 1998, and biology became an information technology. And when something transfers from an analog technology like the Yellow Pages to an information technology like the internet, it doubles every unit of time. And that's every 10 to 12 months in biology. So by 2015, we had eclipsed all of human knowledge of human anatomy and physiology. And then in the 11 years since 2015,
our advancement in our understanding of human anatomy and physiology has grown exponentially like the knee of a curve. people, know, we don't feel that, like nobody feels any different, you know? It's just like when cell phones came, you know, when we were kids, the idea that you could watch a movie on a device in your pocket was some George Jetsons future that was never gonna happen.
And then the iPhone showed up and you can watch Netflix on your phone. Everybody just shrugged their shoulders like, it's just another day at the office. Okay. Because when technology, you know, hits, right? Like technologically mediated telepathy. What is that? It's called a text message, buddy. Okay. I told you in the 19, in 1985, when I graduated from high school, Hey, in 10 years, we're going to be able to send our thoughts to another person anywhere in the world for nothing. Come on, bro.
you know it so it's our
speaker-0 (27:57.55)
It's science fiction. was stuff in the movies.
speaker-2 (28:00.59)
This is the state of science today. And I'm sorry, I actually have two patients and I gotta go. And I wanna thank you for hosting us, David. Mix more than capable of taking the rest of the ball. But thank you again for your kind attention and I really appreciate it.
speaker-0 (28:16.438)
Thank you for your time, Dr. Gregg. I appreciate you being here.
All right, Mick. So he's a wealth of knowledge, for sure. But I still have a couple of questions here. what does the process look like? Let's say, OK, I've got an old motorcycle accident injury and my ankle is constantly inflamed. It sounds like I could be a candidate for this technology or this service, whatever you want to call it. What does that look like from the patients or the client's point of view?
speaker-1 (28:51.52)
So in cases of joint pain or localized pain, we're able to actually send the vials of the Ultra RSF directly to the patient's home. And then our nurses would instruct them on how to inject it with just a simple diabetic syringe.
speaker-0 (29:13.678)
Okay, alright. And then how long would they be doing that?
speaker-1 (29:17.454)
For something like what you just mentioned, an ankle injury, they would inject it, you know, it'll take maybe two or three minutes and they would inject that area with, you know, a couple of tiny injections in the area themselves and then the ultra-RF stuff will kick in. It'll typically result in improvement in their inflammation and pain in a matter of one to three days.
So they'll see significant improvement in that area. then depending on the severity of their condition, whether it's structural or not, then a second injection may be warranted three to four weeks down the road. But typically for just minor pain issues like that, one vial of the Ultra RSF is sufficient to do its magic.
speaker-0 (30:10.218)
Okay, is it expensive?
speaker-1 (30:12.526)
No, it's very affordable considering the cost of other stem cell technologies. You know, it's not in the 10, 20 thousand dollar range. It's in the range of 1500 to 2500 dollars.
speaker-0 (30:23.722)
Okay, all right. That would be per treatment per vial. Okay, and one vial would be it.
speaker-1 (30:26.978)
per vial,
depending on how severe the condition is.
speaker-0 (30:34.314)
Yeah, yeah. Okay, all right. You mentioned neurodegenerative diseases. That's on a lot of people's minds as we're aging these days. One of the points in the mission statement of my show is that we want to age gracefully and live a more purpose-driven life. So, I'm 63 years old. My dad died of Alzheimer's. My mom died with severe dementia. That's on a lot of people's mind as well as mine. Do you have any... I mean, that would be anecdotal.
But do you have any stories you can share about someone with neurodegenerative disease that's been helped by this?
speaker-1 (31:08.908)
Yeah, absolutely. So one of my doctors, Dr. Ace Choksi, he's an MD out of Cincinnati, Ohio and in LA, I mean, in California by the high tech area there. So he's got two offices and he's a geneticist. He's also trains a lot of doctors on peptides. He also is well known for being able to bring people from close to...
close to expiring back to life. And so he's got a very long history of being able to do that. In the last six months, he's been utilizing molecular hydrogen therapy and very successfully he's been getting amazing results for people with neurodegenerative conditions. And more recently, he's been utilizing it for his patients and one patient in particular, she was doing molecular hydrogen for about a month.
And then she was introduced to the ultra RSF intranasally. After the first week, she came back for the second week. And then when she came back for the third week, her caregiver commented to Dr. Choksi that she's 80 % improved. And he has an interview with her, which I'd be happy to share with you offline. But in that interview, basically she recognized her.
improvements in her cognitive capabilities significantly. So it's quite amazing that in just a matter of three weeks, which is unheard of and this is anecdotal, know, not promising any results, but to see that kind of improvement is phenomenal. Another doctor of mine, Dr. Leslie Pace out of Atlanta, she had a patient that was literally homebound for five years with Parkinson's.
And she was doing hydrogen also, molecular hydrogen inhalation, which really neutralizes lot of the inflammation and oxidative stress throughout the body systemically. But when she actually had a intranasal dose when I was there in the office, and 10 days later her husband calls my doctor up and says, hey, I don't know what you're doing to my wife, but she's driving around town in my full-size pickup truck for the first time in five years.
speaker-1 (33:32.108)
Wow. whatever it is, keep doing it, you know? Literally, she stopped doing the Parkinson's shuffle and she was actually walking with, you know, like foot over foot, like normal, like you and I would. mean, that's
speaker-0 (33:35.16)
That's awesome.
speaker-0 (33:45.87)
That's amazing. Yeah, that is life changing.
speaker-1 (33:51.116)
Yeah, yeah, it's very powerful.
speaker-0 (33:53.634)
So I want to add to that. I want to add, Mick, I'm a firm believer in hydrogen therapy. I have a hydrogen generator at my house. It'll infuse water and I can inhale it through a canula. I'm a huge fan. In fact, I did an episode on that a while back with, he goes by Greg the Hydrogen Man. And it was episode number, I can't think of the number right now, but I'll put it in the show notes for sure. And yeah, it's really cool technology. I've personally benefited from it.
But to get quality hydrogen, it's not cheap. do your patients, make, avail themselves to molecular hydrogen?
speaker-1 (34:35.33)
So I have another company, it's a wellness company. the one of the most medically indicated, it's used by the most doctors in the country. It's called HydroHeal, H-Y-D-R-O-H-E-A-L dot com. with that, you know, over the last several years, I've used it for my own patients. When I initially was introduced to it two and a half years ago, when they were bringing the technology from Japan, one of my colleagues told me about it and he had an incredible experience by just having...
One 30 minute session and I didn't really believe him because you know, obviously being in healthcare for 35 years I do everything about everything so I didn't really Pay to heat but when I tried it myself it had a tremendous impact on me personally and when I saw the 3,000 plus clinical studies supporting its efficacy in so many different diseases and medical conditions and metabolic conditions I That that evening about the company and since that time I've improved the technology
to the point where I can actually offer a lifetime warranty which nobody in the world does. And so I have a device that has a significant amount of platinum in it that ensures that people will only breathe pure hydrogen and not any kind of toxic fumes. We these cheap machines that are available on the internet now. it's a device that'll last you a lifetime. And it'll enable you to breathe in the hydrogen at a sufficient
speaker-0 (35:48.002)
Yeah, that's important.
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level that you can have significant improvement in so many different medical conditions and also have the ability to make hydrogen water. We have headphones like what you're wearing right now. It pushes the hydrogen gas through the ear canal into the brain tissue. So we're getting amazing results for patients with cognitive issues and even stroke, TBI, things of that nature and also for hearing issues, know, like tinnitus and hearing loss. So
And then we also have goggles for the eyes, you know, so we have the ability to make hydrogen water baths too with it. So we have this technology. Yeah. So it's very powerful and it's there's no risk because you'll never have to worry about the machine ever being, you know, obsolete.
speaker-0 (36:49.932)
Yeah, wow, that's really cool. real quick, I just want to kind of explain a little bit about how molecular hydrogen works. It's a powerful antioxidant, as you said earlier. And the thing is, we don't want to stop all oxidation in the body. Some oxidation is absolutely essential for life. When we breathe oxygen in, we are oxygenating some of our cells. So we don't want to stop that process completely.
And what molecular hydrogen does is it goes after the most harmful forms of oxidation and it leaves the desirable oxidation alone, which is unique in the health and wellness industry as far as I know. I don't know of any other product or service that can do that.
speaker-1 (37:34.208)
And it's the only antioxidant reaction that pass through the blood-brain barrier.
speaker-0 (37:37.986)
Yes, yes, true, which has huge implications for neurodegenerative diseases, right? So, a patient that came to you, they would first start off with molecular hydrogen and do that for a period of time before they actually got the ultra RSF.
speaker-1 (37:57.166)
So they would get both. typically prime, we'd prime the body. It's called, you know, priming. So we typically prime the body neutralizing oxidative stress systemically. You know, for joint issues, we don't use hydrogen as a primer. We typically will just have them use the other stem cell technology. But when patients are having systemic conditions or more severe conditions that
involve pain like even construction, know, things that like say rotator cuff tear, that's different from say somebody having shoulder pain, right? Yes. So in rotator cuff tear, we would use molecular hydrogen, whereas just shoulder pain, they would just basically be able to use a stem cell technology. So, you know, gauge what the patient's needs are based on, you know, their evaluations.
speaker-0 (38:50.102)
I love it. So it's not a one size fits all. You actually talk to the patient and create a treatment plan that's unique to them. I really think that's great. That's awesome.
speaker-1 (39:00.546)
We have doctors that, know, Dr. Joshua Hellman, he's a double board certified doctor from Harvard, and he's also the medical director of Alzheimer Treatment Centers of America. He is our neurodegenerative doctor that, you know, loves the molecular hydrogen. He's getting incredible results with it, and also the ultra RSF. Dr. H. Choksi, I mentioned also before.
speaker-0 (39:24.334)
All right, so here's the last question I have for you, and that is, well, maybe closer to the last. Is this product or service, is it approved by the FDA or is that even necessary?
speaker-1 (39:36.792)
So this product falls under section 361 of the FDA regulations for an Acellular minimally manipulated product. it's Acellular, so does not have any biologics or RNA or DNA in it. So it's not considered biologic. Typically, stem cells and exosomes fall under section 351.
of the FDA regulations and that's the area that has all the restrictions and bans in the United States.
speaker-0 (40:13.87)
Okay. All right. So it doesn't fall into that category.
speaker-1 (40:18.616)
Correct, So it can be provided for research and clinical use.
speaker-0 (40:24.044)
Okay, excellent. Okay, very good. All right. So what would you like our listeners to take away from this conversation? What's the most important thing you want them to remember?
speaker-1 (40:36.066)
I want them to understand that there is hope for their conditions that their doctors have said that there's nothing else they can do. That there is hope now and we have the solution for them and we basically are offering a $300 complimentary consultation for anybody that is in need of a solution for their pain or their condition that they want.
a doctor that has better options for them.
speaker-0 (41:09.134)
Okay, and where are you located?
speaker-1 (41:11.278)
We're located in Orlando. We have two locations in Orlando, North and South Orlando, but we provide telehealth nationally. Our doctors are located in different states throughout the United States, including Orlando. So we have a footprint to be able to help anybody literally anywhere in the world.
speaker-0 (41:32.366)
Okay, all right, very good. And what's your website if people want to get a hold of you?
speaker-1 (41:36.622)
RegenMDS, Regen obviously stands for regenerative, so R-E-G-E-N-M-D-S dot com.
speaker-0 (41:44.334)
RegenMDs.com. All right, very good. Well, thank you, Mick. It was a pleasure speaking with you. I wish you well.
speaker-1 (41:50.936)
Thank you so much, David. Thank you so much for your insights.
speaker-0 (41:53.358)
You're welcome. I hope you enjoyed that conversation. If you or somebody you know is considering stem cell therapy, I think this technology is something that's worth looking into. Again, Nick's website is RegenMDS.com. R-E-G-E-N-M-D-S.com. If you're enjoying this podcast and you're finding value here, would you help me get the word out?
The number one way people find out about a podcast is a friend tells them about it. I would also appreciate leaving me a rating interview on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. That's it for now. Thank you so much for listening. I appreciate you. Go out there and live abundantly. Be blessed.
